Solebury Township Parks & Recreation Committee Chair Kevin Campbell on Friday sent an angry letter to Supervisor Helen Tai over a decision last week by the Board of Supervisors to
scrap a cost-sharing agreement with New Hope.
New Hope residents may have to pay $130 more annually to use Solebury Township Park & Recreation facilities starting in February 2018 unless borough council returns to the negotiating table to discuss fixing what Solebury Supervisors consider a lopsided financial burden.
In his letter, Campbell lambasted Tai for failing to consult Solebury’s Park & Rec advisory committee, which he chairs. He also criticized what he views as the potential fallout from increased usage fees on New Hope children.
“I think the decision to rescind the agreement on 11/9/17 was done prematurely and without BOS board members having adequate information to make an educated decision,” Campbell said in his letter.
“I estimate the sports parks cost Solebury $85,000 annually,” continued Campbell. “Which then reduces your calculations of Solebury’s sports park share to $72,000, and NH to $13,000 which is a realistic cost to have the new hope kids participate in our programs. I believe balance of the non sports park portion of the P&R annual budget is the responsibility of Solebury Township, not NH.”
Solebury officials say they’re offering New Hope a new agreement that increases the borough’s contribution from $1,500 to $32,000, with a deadline of Jan. 31.
“The Board of Supervisors rescinded the 2006 agreement with New Hope because it was not in the best interest of our residents,” Tai responded late Friday. “We have offered New Hope a more equitable agreement and await their response. I am still hopeful that New Hope Borough Council will decide to pay their fair share across all four shared services. If they choose not to, then the Board will need to decide next steps, and I will certainly take under consideration the input of the P&R committee, as well as all Solebury residents.”
Campbell tangled with Tai and other Solebury Supervisors in May over their handling of a county grant.
Campbell’s letter, verbatim:
I am sending this email to you as you appear to be the BOS point person on the New Hope (NH) Solebury Shared Services issue. I am copying the remaining Board members and Parks &Recreation (P&R) advisory committee to keep all persons involved and should be involved in this decision making process up to speed on my findings for the P&R shared services portion of this issue.
Let me start by saying that the P&R advisory committee is disappointed that the BOS did not include us or seek our advice in any way as to the P&R portion of the shared services issue. We could have been a valuable asset in researching details in order to provide all the necessary information and make recommendations prior to bringing this to NH. This is the purpose of the P&R advisory committee.
I am disappointed at the tone the Solebury Township (ST) Supervisors have taken in regards to the P&R portion of this issue. It appears that the Board of Supervisors (BOS) took a very aggressive approach to the P&R portion and a more subtle, almost non existent approach to other services which makes me suspicious as to the nature of this adventure by the BOS.
When it comes down to it this issue is about the children. We need to be sensitive how we are presenting this to them. Someone will have to explain to the young children why they can’t play here with their school mates and now have to go elsewhere to play. Unfortunately the parents will have to explain it and it will go something like this in many NH homes “But why can’t we play in Solebury anymore Mom we did last year? Well Tommy we can’t afford to play there anymore because the people that run Solebury want to charge us an extra $130 for you and your brother and sister for each sport that you play. Thats $390 dollars more and we can’t afford it. Well thats not fair Mom, all the other kids from my class play there. Sorry Tommy but we will have to go somewhere else that cares about the kids.”
I agree that NH should be paying more into P&R to help defer the costs associated with some of our programs. And maybe it is the parents of the participants that should pay a small fee to play here. But we have to keep in mind that they already are paying registration fees around $200 per participant/ per sport/ per season depending on the sport. And that the registration fees everyone pays helps to cover a portion of the costs to maintain the fields that they use so they are already directly contributing something to the P&R programs. Baseball and soccer both pay Solebury Township $6,000 each year for the use of the fields. Thats $120,000 over the course of the last ten years. Football and Lacrosse have also paid fees to ST over the years. That money comes direct from the registration fees we ALL pay. So NH parents are already paying directly to help with the costs of the fields.
I think the decision to rescind the agreement on 11/9/17 was done prematurely and without BOS board members having adequate information to make an educated decision.
By rescinding the agreement we just threw away $1,500 for 2018. We rescinded an agreement with no thoughts on how this affects the NH families that have been a part of our programs for years. We rescinded an intergovernmental P&R agreement without the current BOS chair and BOS P&R liaison, Kevin Morrisey, present at the 11/09/17 meeting to provide any input on behalf of the P&R committee. The lack of his presence completely cut out any potential for the P&R Advisory Committee input into the final decision. Once again I am suspicious as to why?
We have the potential now to lose 10 – 12% of our participants in our programs. We already have a declining number of kids in our programs due to the decreasing number of school aged kids in our townships. This is a fact you personally like to bring up any time sports is brought up in the BOS meetings. The programs can’t afford to lose more kids due to this issue or the programs will suffer. (Hence my suspicion as to this adventure the BOS has undertaken. Maybe it is the intent of the ST BOS to slowly dissolve the the sports programs?). We must also consider that if we lose enough kids and the individual programs can’t cover their costs anymore they will have to raise their fees to the remaining Solebury participants to cover those costs. So how did this help Solebury taxpayers? It doesn’t. Once again the working families will get charged more.
Many kids play multiple sports. If a NH family with one child participates in three activities it will be an additional $390 per year. I know quite a few NH families that have 2-3 kids that play in more than one sport annually. Some families could be looking at an additional $500 to $1,000 a year ON TOP OF the original $200 registration that already pay for EACH sport. Do the math. This would be a large burden on NH working families. Lets keep in mind that this directly affects our friends and neighbors. Not the NH Borough Supervisors. Why can’t we wait until 2018 as they requested? Will Solebury go broke?
Even if all of the kids leave. The $32,000 in costs do not go away. Our P&R budget will stay the same. Unless the BOS uses the declining numbers as an excuse to start to close programs and fields.
You based your calculations on a P&R budget of $140,000. Just so the other voting BOS members understand that is the ENTIRE P&R budget to cover the costs of ALL of our parks. Since the conversation has been solely about our sports parks then only the budgets of those parks should be calculated. I have reviewed our $140,000 annual P&R budget and separated out the sports parks, (Laurel, Canal & Pat Livezy) and their budget total is only $73,000. The remaining parks budget is $29,000 and I assume the remaining $38,000 is administration costs. I added 30% ($12,000) of the overall administration costs and I estimate the sports parks cost Solebury $85,000 annually. Which then reduces your calculations of Soleburys sports park share to $72,000 and NH to $13,000 which is a realistic cost to have the new hope kids participate in our programs. I believe balance of the non sports park portion of the P&R annual budget is the responsibility of Solebury Township not NH.
The $32,000 you are looking to recoup from NH is less than one half of a percent of Solebury’s annual budget of $7,400,000. The amount of money we are talking about is peanuts compared to $7.4M.
And then I read in the Herald today that you are blaming the Ambulance tax increase as a reason to push the issue. Really? The BOS sold this to our residents as ONLY $44 per average household. Now its a “large increase in ambulance costs”. We have $3,000,000 in our general fund that could easily prevent any tax increase for additional ambulance service. But hey. Lets blame the kids and use them as an excuse.
– At the next BOS meeting 11/21/17 cancel the rescinding of the agreement and meet with NH in early 2018 and resolve this issue amicably.
– Engage the Solebury Township P&R committee to assist in the resolution of this issue.
– Do not charge the NH families a surcharge of $130 per participant!!!
– Hold off on any additional charges to NH participant registrations until after the spring sports. Institute charges if any in the fall so ALL affected groups have time to work things out.
– Suggest that NH borough start at $6,000ish for 2018 and works up on a graduated basis to a mutually agreed final number. Or start at $13,000 and review it annually or biannually.
– If families have to pay individually I suggest they start at $25 per participant with a cap of $75 per family annually, or something to this effect.
– All non solebury/non NH participants should be charged $25 or $50 regardless of this agreement.
I think you can tell by this email that I am upset. Why? Because its all completely unnecessary. Im sorry but in the end the only losers here are the children of New Hope and Solebury. They just want to play with their friends and classmates and the Solebury Township Board of Supervisors are now engaging in a process to end that.
Solebury Little League Baseball & Softball Board Member
Solebury Parks & Recreation Committee Chair
Classic “Tragedy of the Commons” of economic theory…which is one of the reasons we have government. Allie, Helen, Clair…it’s time to exercise your elected responsibility…DO WHAT IS RIGHT!!!
Since the New Hope Council will eventually talk to Solebury about how much they should fund the sports programs, why not also have the conversation with Upper Makefield? Both P&R departments need kids in their programs. Why not check in with UM as part of their due diligence – Of course that would require the Council to make a few more phone calls and perhaps attend a meeting (The Horrors!!). They won’t know unless they begin to have the dialog, and now seems like as good a time as any since Solebury rescinded the agreement. The answer will probably be to remain in Solebury and work out an agreement, but they should look at their options. UM does not have a field shortage issue, and their rec programs are more of a priority than they are in Solebury.
I understand wanting your kids to play with classmates, but there is nothing wrong with making new friends.
There are parks in Solebury other then ballfields. Have you ever seen Magills Hill Park?
I think Mr. Campbell hit the nail right on the head. Glad he expressed the other side of the story.
While there’s truth to this, all of this can only be negotiated if New Hope’s Council actually shows up to do so.
New Hope’s continued dereliction of duty means this can’t and won’t be solved.
New Hope’s Council needs to show up to work like big boys and girls, talk through the situation, and come up with a solution agreeable to both sides.
The status quo certainly isn’t fair to Solebury’s taxpayer’s, but perhaps the numbers recommended by the Board of Supervisor’s also isn’t totally fair to New Hope’s.
The problem remains –
ALL of this is a moot point as long as Shaw/Kingsley/etc refuse to even show up to the table (why??!??!??! – do your jobs!) – it makes no difference if Solebury asks them for one penny or 1,000,000 dollars – refusal to show is completely unacceptable.
Sandra – “niche.com” (or “College Prowler” as they were known before all the bad press forced them to change their name) is a bs site that has been caught up in multiple scams. It’s 1% better than going up to any bum on the street and asking them to write up a list off the top of their heads.
I’d refer you to US News & World Report and Newsweek instead of a no-name hack website.
It’s not a park it’s a ball field. Every so called park is really ball fields so stop calling them parks there not. A park has greenery walking paths , picnic grounds, All talk is about where the children will play, what about the adults. New Hope only has a tow path and a sled hill, oh yes pocket parks in town.
Interesting. Never thought of it that way, Suzanne. You’re right. Thanks.
Gotta say Chip nailed it. Shaw, Kingsley, and their Council cabal are corrupt self-important do-nothings. But don’t let Tai and the Solebury BOS off so easy. Yes, your “leverage theory” makes a lot of sense, but Tai is renowned for being apathetic at best (I would say hostile) toward organized youth sports, and it’s obvious to many in the know that she would prefer that youth sports in Solebury eventually just go away. Sure, Campbell is a shameless grandstander…but he’s not wrong and I for one am grateful for his campaign on this issue. Bottom line…we have a bunch of slimy local politicians in both towns serving their own egos and interests to the detriment of our kids.
This is a load of garbage. It’s obvious that the Solebury BOS doesn’t actually want to charge New Hope families that participate the $130 fee – that’s being used as leverage against the New Hope Council members that are AWOL as usual.
This is the Solebury BOS throwing something out there to force Claire Shaw and her gaggle of delinquents to the table instead of constantly kicking the can down the road ignoring requests or at best saying “We’ll get back to you” –
I don’t think Kevin Campbell is by any means unaware of this – he’s a smart man – so this is him feigning ignorance of what the purpose of the threatened $130 fee is – leverage. He’s unhappy with the members of the Solebury BOS for any number of his own personal reasons and his actions here are unhelpful.
Want to blame someone?
Don’t blame the Solebury BOS – take a look at the entire situation and then take a good hard look at Shaw/Kingsley’s usual corruption. In ANY uncomfortable situation, whether it’s this or the New Hope computer hacking scandal, they always prefer to play possum, go silent, and hope the whole thing blows over instead of actively engaging and keeping the public informed.
The level of disinformation or ignorance surrounding this is astounding – on the NH Free Press Facebook page, the comments section for the initial article about this situation even has someone saying (paraphrasing) “One has to consider how many more people live in Solebury than New Hope – of course Solebury should pay more” –
Do the adults around here REALLY not understand the term “per capita”? I’m stunned at the ignorance, willful or not.
Maybe the people who don’t understand “per capita” went to school here. Solebury ranked 33? That’s just great. https://patch.com/pennsylvania/warminster/new-ranking-pennsylvanias-best-school-districts-released
…and Sandra, you’re just being a d**k with that comment. You add nothing to this discussion.
Buncha gawbage…right chippa?
Agree totally. Kevin pushed the BOS to fund a soccer field this past spring in Solebury by making private conversations public, in an effort to inflame the public so I can’t say I am surprised by this latest edition of his Grand Standing. Maybe he would have been willing to give up one of his numerous baseball fields – to which there are more than enough in a depleting program to offer to a growing program such as soccer, but lets just let the tax payers pick up that expense. Smells like a future run for office since he is a Republican as all this grand standing is just that. Yes- New Hope has kicked the can for years, so we can all get tied up in this drama or recognize that the 2 towns could leverage services and expenses for the greater good of the tax payers; which include parks and other resources. That is just smart management and also smart advocating for our community. I wish more people would take that approach and spend our funds like it is their own……..
I read this post 3 times and it still doesn’t make any sense, except that Insider doesn’t like Kevin. On that we agree, but it’s irrelevant. We need these lamo local politicians to do their jobs and start serving the interests of New Hope and Solebury.
Anyone with even a peripheral knowledge of the Solebury BOS is aware of their (particularly, Helen Tai’s) hostility toward youth sports. Mr Campbell has more knowledge than most, and he’s laid out the BOS machinations in a very coherent way. I have no doubt the ultimate goal of the BOS is the eventual demise of youth sports in our towns. Fortunately for my family, our kids are now in high school. But their years on the Laurel fields have made them better citizens, students, friends, and, soon enough…adults.
“Sorry Tommy but we will have to go somewhere else that cares about the kids,” writes Kevin Campbell. That’s sweet, but someone has to worry about the money, too.
Of course we all need to worry about the budget, and NH should contribute to the sports programs in a more equitable way…but the BOS is trying to charge NH 246% more than they should for the programs.
Tommy’s parents may not have an issue with this, but families with a Jackson, Sarah, and Lindsey playing multiple sports will certainly be impacted by this attempted overcharge by the BOS.
Sandra this whole thing is about the money, you maroon!
Lester, if you are going to call someone a name, spell it correctly.
Sandy that is a perfect response